h church and society. That to me does not seem like feminism is positive because as a colleague of the author L. William Countryman states that, "Feminism enables the church to survive or retain authority in its environing society (Pg 11)." I think if feminists
             are hurting the church in any way that it cannot be contributing anything positive at all. I may not be a church going person but I have always thought that if someone did something to hurt the church it was a crime. For example, if I owned a store and one woman thought she was not being treated right and got a feminist group together and protested, but all the other women employees thought they were being treated right. That would hurt my business, and I see this as a simile to feminist hurting any progress to the church.
             Over the years a big question has come about; why can women not be ordained? Instead of looking at negative things a woman cannot do for the church, lets look at the positive. As L. William Countryman says, "Women have been full active members in the community from the start, serving as patrons, prophets, deacons, and apostles (Pg 22)." Richard Holloway then responds to this by saying, "Very much the way a man is incapable of bearing children, women are incapable by nature of receiving ordination (Pg 7)." I see this as a good point because we all cannot do the same things in the world. We have to be different in some ways. Like Richard Holloway said men cannot have
             ` babies by nature and women cannot be ordained by nature. Then that is the way it has to be until someone changes that.
             A male theologian named Stephen C. Barton sees Christian feminist writing, "Having the tendency to claim either too much or too little from history is a problem (Pg 34)." He thinks that this is not positive because it does not help the church by respondi
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