The bitter rivalry between Fredrick II and Innocent IV caused them to disagree with anything that concerned either of them. Each party tried to debase the other through words and actions. In reaction to Fredrick II's deposition by Innocent IV, the banter between the two became increasingly more barbed, as they both took stabs as each other. Both Fredrick and Innocent (through their individual texts) agree that church and state are indeed separate organizations. Fredrick II portrays the Church as an organization that has overstepped its boundaries. Conversely, Innocent makes his rebuttal by depicting the State as being inferior (or derived) from the powers of the Church.
             The views of the Church are strikingly different between Innocent and Fredrick; whereas Innocent sees the Church as being the omnipotent force in the world: "the primacy of apostolic dignity which Peter...[had] received not from man but from God" (Tierney, 147). He continues by showing that the State has no respect for that power that it has been "given", in effect showing that State has no respect for its peers. Fredrick fundamentally differs in his view of the Church: he views the Church as being a nuisance that interferes in temporal matters, matters that should be of no concern to the Church. Fredrick portrays the Church has being power-hungry, trying to undermine the establishment that the State had fought so hard to maintain. To continue, Fredrick portrays the Church as being ill-suited to their cause, the Church was not partaking in their responsibilities of managing religious affairs and was instead more involved with temporal affairs that by no stretch of the imagination fell under the Church's wing.
             Both Fredrick and Innocent seem to agree that essentially the Church and the State are separate of each other. Thus neither says that Church had derived from State or vice-versa. In stating this separation the writers make it ...